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Social networking and crap (with emphasis on the "crap") [Jan. 16th, 2010|01:11 pm]
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So, twice in the last week or so I've had it recommended to me (in person) that I join up at Facebook.

Now, I'm not really much of a "social networking" type person (it will be noted that most of my actual public posts here are either status reports or reviews of popular culture that I've particularly enjoyed) but it seems to be "expected" of people these days that they have some sort of on-line presence. (Particularly if, like me, they're people who refuse point blank to have anything to do with cellular telephones). I don't Twitter (I'm not good at compressing my thoughts into fractions of a sentence) and my actual web site is of no interest whatsoever outside a very specialised field (i.e. it's of interest to perhaps a dozen or so people in the entire world).

So I had a look at the site this morning. Unfortunately you can't actually tell much about what the site's like from its front end (it's basically a sign up screen and that's about all). So I don't actually know whether it's the sort of thing I'd want to waste actual time at, or not, at all.

Also, it seems to expect that people use their Actual Real Names on it. As I'm one of about three people on the entire planet with my Actual Real Name (the ubiquitousness of my first name is only outmatched by the rarity of my last name) I normally just go by some variation of "Dave" (these days, "Daveosaurus" seems to be the most common).

So... anyone got any thoughts on the whole system? Bearing in mind that I'm well into middle age and have interests that tend to terrify the more "normal" sorts of people.
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[User Picture]From: tyger_raven
2010-01-16 12:20 am (UTC)
Dude, based on what I know of you, I'd say that Facebook is NOT for you. There's issues with people knowing too much about each other because not only does Facebook track what you send out, but Facebook will also track whatever you do on the site and lets everyone else know it too unless you go through the painful and quite confusing process of telling it to NOT post something. Also, there's these games that everyone (myself included) has gotten into that take up not only most of our time on the site but takes up space and time of others because, like I said earlier, facebook likes to post about EVERYTHING you do.

The only thing that facebook is good for is keeping up with people, which if someone is really a friend, can be done in a more secure manner by, oh, I don't know, emailing each other every once in a while. Facebook is evil. Don't bother. When people recommend it to you, then I'd recommend you say, "No, thanks, it's just not for me." If they insist, then they need to get over it and stop guilting or peer pressuring you.
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[User Picture]From: southerndave
2010-01-23 12:01 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I don't really have time for much in the way of time-wasters (if I did have that sort of time, there's still a few web-comic archives I'd like to have a read through...) and it would take up entirely too much time explaining to anyone who I found that I know off-line why I go by some absurd name along the lines of "Daveosaurus Rex" or anything like that.
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[User Picture]From: southerndave
2010-01-23 11:58 am (UTC)
I'm fairly much impossible to peer-pressure into doing anything (my normal reaction to peer pressure involves digging my heels in and refusing to shift at all). Even this blog here isn't so much Something People Are Doing but a fourth- or fifth-generation descendant of stuff I've been doing since the late 1980s... particularly as far as any actual content goes (the main change of format happened in about 2003 when I lost a print outlet for my thoughts and reviews so just went on-line instead).

It's also not as if I'm at all hard to find just by looking my name up in Google or Whitepages (although, weirdly enough, my postal address is harder to find than my actual street address...)
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[User Picture]From: d_h
2010-01-16 12:32 am (UTC)
I stay away from facebook, in part because I don't want to play the timewaster games, no feel the need for the level of detail from distance acquaintances (I would describe the facebook social networking model as "Teenage Best Friends 4 Ever", and don't like their privacy policies. But in reality it's more that I don't like their Walled Garden/ McDonald's Playground controlled space for supplying people to their commercial partners.
That said, if I ever do build a presence on facebook, it would be just with a marker of "This is where else I can be found on the internet"
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[User Picture]From: southerndave
2010-01-23 11:29 am (UTC)
Hmmm... that's probably about the only reason I could use to justify signing up, either. Especially considering both of the people who suggested it know where to find me on the internet (either my web site or my blog) anyway, so it's not as if needing to find some way of communicating with me is an issue...
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[User Picture]From: baphnedia
2010-01-16 01:34 am (UTC)
You could make a return to the forums perhaps... I can't promise that anyone has grown up of course; but the forums are no more obtrusive than they were before...
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[User Picture]From: southerndave
2010-01-23 11:31 am (UTC)
I've had a couple of noseys at your new site and was going to comment at one point before I got distracted by something... Let me know if you want any roof-preading done on your Super Sekrit Project (it has got to be more interesting than that dissertation I should really re-start work on doing the proof-reading of...)
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[User Picture]From: baphnedia
2010-01-24 08:11 am (UTC)
Muahahaha...!
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[User Picture]From: abates
2010-01-16 03:31 am (UTC)
I seem to hear about security holes in Facebook every other month. This does not make me very keen to sign up. I suppose I could do with entirely fake information, but that seems like it would defeat the purpose. :)
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[User Picture]From: southerndave
2010-01-23 11:33 am (UTC)
Good points... I don't really relish the thought of all the people who vaguely remember me from high school suddenly deciding I'm their Best Friend Forever after not even thinking of me for a quarter of a century...
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[User Picture]From: foenix
2010-01-16 03:44 am (UTC)
We're more the sort who would join an unsocial network.

No wait, we wouldn't.

;)
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[User Picture]From: southerndave
2010-01-23 11:59 am (UTC)
I thought we already were an unsocial network. The lack of any actual organised network only backs up our claim to unsociability...
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[User Picture]From: aeb
2010-01-16 04:06 am (UTC)
{shrug} Like Kat, I'm there, but I mostly use it to play games.

And keep up with family members, including a cousin-in-law I'd never met, two cousins I hadn't heard from in over a decade, a cousin's son I never hear from directly, and two cousins and an aunt I've kept in touch with better thru email. (Dad's family tends to be distant. {Smile})

And find old classmates I may or may not wish I hadn't fallen out of touch with after high school.

Oh, and keep up with news from Misty and a couple other authors. It has quite a few fan pages, including two dedicated to Mercedes Lackey. If that sounds interesting, you want the one with more abmlers in the member list, and less makeup in the profile picture. {Smile}

Truthfully, I think you'd pop in for information from a few authors, and not much else. The status updates are longer than twitter posts, but not by much. So just about anything I mention there is covered in Much, MUCH greater detail here on LJ. {smile}

Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
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[User Picture]From: southerndave
2010-01-23 11:40 am (UTC)
Well, it seems to be able to cope with longer posts as well (for some reason the playlist for the last afternoon of Matinee Idle got put up on a Facebook page - about two screenfuls of music listings). But I've already got a Live Journal for doing that, and there's enough fandom here to keep me occupied (between the ABML crowd, the Crossgen crowd, the Doctor Who crowd and general fans I've met through other friends here who are now my friends as well). A decent number of authors who write really interesting blogs either have a Live Journal RSS feed (like Neil Gaiman) or actually operate their own Live Journals (like Ursula Vernon).

And my classmates from high school could always google my name and the town I live in and find me fairly darned quickly without aid of Facebook - if they ever actually wanted to...
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[User Picture]From: aeb
2010-01-24 01:08 am (UTC)
True. They do have a notes feature. Some of my friends use it. I really need to figure out how to access it better. One high school friend likes to post movie review with it, and a few friends use it for text-memes. {Smile}

Yes, I've noticed a few authors here, as well as on the blogs. I'd say those are more likely to be updated than the Facebook pages. (Misty is good at updating Facebook. Everyone else seems to be better updating Somewhere Else. {Smile})

Anne Elizabeth Baldwin


Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
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[User Picture]From: dkphoenix
2010-01-16 06:24 pm (UTC)
I'm one of only one person on the planet with my full, hyphenated name, so I understand the "using the real name" hesitation.

I have an account there, but it's only so people I've lost touch with from high school or earlier can contact me. I seldom check it, have only the bare minimum of personal information, and never update it. I've never tried the games, but I've mused about creating another account for them. Like I need another internet time waster. ;-)

Honestly, as far as social networking goes, I think Livejournal is more fun. It's easier to start discussions with people who share your interests, and it's easier to set your privacy settings globally. Facebook seems to me to be more set up for people who use the internet to facilitate socializing offline as opposed to people who enjoy socializing online... if that makes sense.
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[User Picture]From: southerndave
2010-01-23 11:43 am (UTC)
I'd agree on Live Journal being more fun, and a better source of finding people who I'd find interesting now, rather than people I found interesting a quarter of a century ago when we would all have been very different than we are now. I've had two or three random people pop up here quite out of the blue simply because I'm one of the three or four people on Live Journal who think the Terminals are one of the world's greatest bands...
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