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New Zealand Music Month - Day Ten [May. 10th, 2013|09:22 pm]
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So far this month, it's all been Big City Music. (Well, for values of "big city" which include Dunedin. Which seems big when you live in Darkest Invercargill).

There isn't really any definition of "big city" flexible enough to include Stratford.

We're also into 1982 (or thereabouts. The internet isn't exactly overflowing with information about when each particular Nocturnal Projections record was first released).

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[User Picture]From: aeb
2013-05-10 09:29 pm (UTC)

I had to look up Stratford. I see what you mean; 6,000 isn't what I'd call a big city at all. I suppose if you searched far enough in history across the world, you'd find one, but probably not recently. {SMILE, wink}

I know what you mean about Dunedin seeming big from Invercargill. From Hilo, it sounds significantly bigger than it would to someone in or near Honolulu (which is roughly the size of Christchurch). {SMILE, wink}

Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
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[User Picture]From: southerndave
2013-05-14 01:07 am (UTC)
... I was going to reply to this, but I got sidetracked looking at Google Maps for a while. Quite a while. Maybe more than quite a while... Looking at Hilo on Google Maps, it reminds me a bit of Blenheim, except probably quite a lot bigger. (It would probably count as A City if it was in New Zealand, even under the current population criteria, which Invercargill only barely manages to meet).

I'll be driving up to Dunedin tomorrow, fairly much the long way... driving up Highway 6 through Winton to Lumsden (someone from work wants something fairly urgently looked at up there and I'm travelling anyway...), then following Highway 94 through Riversdale to Gore; following Highway 90 through Tapanui to Raes Junction, then following Highway 8 through Lawrence to Milton, then Highway 1 through Waihola and Mosgiel to Dunedin. Of all the interim points mentioned, only Gore and Mosgiel have more than a couple of thousand people living there.

There's plenty of places called 'city' which have been called so even though they had fewer people living there... Dunedin had been a City since very early in its history, possibly during the original Tuapeka gold rush of the 1860s; and Nelson's city status was originally due to it having had a cathedral, even though it didn't meet the population criteria (it has now, though). Nelson was always known as "the Cathedral City"; and Christchurch, even though its cathedral was much better known, was always "the Garden City". (Invercargill actually had a higher proportion of its area as parks and gardens than Christchurch, but was just always known as "that place down south that's even colder than Dunedin".)

But it would be a lot harder to find anywhere the size of Stratford being called "big"...

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[User Picture]From: aeb
2013-05-14 08:44 am (UTC)
According to Wikipedia, we have a little over 43,000 population, which is about 10,000 less than Invercargill's 53,000 population. I can't quite figure out what your population cut-off is, so I'm not sure if we qualify as a city that way or not. {Smile}

In any case, Hilo can look bigger than people expect because we're very spread out, with relatively few apartments and lots of houses, and some pretty big parks. Also, Hilo has large to huge tracts of undeveloped land right in town. {Smile}

That said, Hilo is the main population center for the island, with more people and better shopping than any other part. So in that sense, we serve a major purpose of a city. {Smile}

Sounds like visitors are very impressed with Invercargill's climate. Some may be negatively impressed, but I hope others are more favorable. {Smile}

Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
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