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Doctor Who night [Jul. 25th, 2010|09:02 pm]
[Current Location |Invercargill]
[mood |busybusy]

"You know there's no such thing as 'stars'."

"I don't want her joining one of those 'star cults'. I don't trust that Richard Dawkins."

... Stone Daleks? As dream sequences go, this is one of the weirder ones.

"OK, kid, this is where it gets complicated".

Looking at Rory Mk. II, it's obvious that the Autons have got a bit better at running off duplicates since Mickey Mk. II.

"... I've got a future. That's nice."

"Total event collapse. The Universe literally never happened."

"I'm Rory!"
"That's software talking."

"Your girlfriend isn't more important than the whole universe."
Go Rory... sometimes the Doctor does need to be brought back to ground level.

"Who are you?"
"It's a long story."

"Nothing can get into this box."
"You can."
"There's only one of me. I checked."

"Why do you have to be so... human?"
"Because I'm not."

"Well, somebody didn't get out much for two thousand years."

I've started wondering. Rory has been time travelling the long way for two thousand years. So... has Amy's Rory always been an Auton? That would be weird.

"History is shrinking. Is anyone even listening to me?"

"Hi, honey. I'm home."
"And what sort of time do you call this?"

"We're going to reboot the universe!" ... So that's why they call this episode "The Big Bang".

"I'm River Song. Check your records again."

"What happened to the Dalek?"
"It died."

"Oh, that's brilliant. It may even work."

"He's going to fly the Pandorica into the heart of the explosion."

"Are you OK?"
"Are you?"

"He doesn't even know me yet... and now he never will."

"You won't have your imaginary friend any more."

"It's from the Doctor."
"What does it say?"
"... 'Geronimo'."

"... OK. I escaped, then."

"The daft old man who stole a magic box." The weirdest thing about this is that (assuming 'sufficiently advanced technology') that's actually exactly what happened at the start of the series. Back in 1963 (although it wasn't really explained until many years later).

"Hello, everyone! I'm Amy's imaginary friend!"

So the Doctor still thinks Rory is "the boy who waited two thousand years". This is really interesting... so is Rory still a self-aware Auton with free will? If so, then this has implications far beyond Rory and Amy and the new show. For example... this means that one of the most memorable Totally Bizarre Characters of the New Adventures books - Graham the spatula - isn't a contradiction of canon any more.

[User Picture]From: paradisacorbasi
2010-07-25 02:39 pm (UTC)
No, I don't think he's an Auton anymore. I think he may remember everything that happened as an Auton, which is a real mind blower isn't it...?

I think the reboot of the universe reset everything. Amy got parents. Stars were back in the sky.
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[User Picture]From: southerndave
2010-07-26 09:13 am (UTC)
Going on past experience, I find it quite easy to believe that Steven Moffat is deliberately playing with the viewers' heads. As for the reset... what's interesting is that I don't remember seeing Amy's parents before. I don't know if they've been seen earlier in the series or not, but I'd not be at all surprised if this was planned well in advance, as well.

Graham the spatula was a character in a quite enjoyable book published during the early years of the hiatus. The basic idea was that on a then contemporary Earth (early to mid 1990s) there were a bunch of aliens left over from failed invasions who just wanted to go home. Unfortunately for Graham, its existence was thrown into question because what was generally understood about the Autons (two serials from the early 1970s) was that they were essentially inanimate unless there was a Nestene Consciousness nearby to direct their actions; and while Doctor Who canon is debatable at best, it's generally assumed that the TV series trumps spin-off books. But now Rory's been able to show free will while still being an Auton, I can go back to thinking that Graham might have a partner and some little plastic sporks to go home to, back wherever it is that the Nestenes come from.
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[User Picture]From: paradisacorbasi
2010-07-26 02:02 pm (UTC)
Amy had no parents at the beginning of this series.

She had an aunt. So I'm thinking the reboot of the universe reset everything.

And yes, it looks like everything was planned in advance, since it all came back to Amy's wedding day.

As for the spatula: awwww. Perhaps you're right. That would be sweet.
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[User Picture]From: kiwipixie
2010-07-26 04:28 am (UTC)
I think somehow Rory's soul could have ended up in that Auton body - so that would explain why he would remember everything - although it wasn't made clear to us that he did actually remember coming back as a "Roman Auton".
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[User Picture]From: southerndave
2010-07-26 08:38 am (UTC)
The interesting thing to me was that the Autons were basing the Romans, not on historic Romans so much as they were basing them on what Amy knew of the Romans. So... is Rory even the Rory he was, or the Rory that Amy knew? (although, at that point, he'd been lost in time for a few episodes and she'd forgotten him almost completely).

I suspect that Moffat might play with the audience a bit on that count over the next series.
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[User Picture]From: intheologus
2010-07-26 08:33 pm (UTC)
And next week it's Doctor Clarkson and the Petrolheads
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[User Picture]From: southerndave
2010-07-27 08:40 am (UTC)
Top Gear isn't Doctor Who; it's The Goodies.

Seriously. Jeremy Clarkson = Graeme Garden; James May = Tim Brooke-Taylor; which leaves Richard Hammond to be the Bill Oddie analogue (which is the only doubtful analogy out of the three).
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