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Doctor Who night [Apr. 26th, 2013|12:02 am]

It's 1983, and an old bloke is singing "Vienna". As this is a Russian sub beneath the Arctic, shouldn't he really be singing "Reckless"? Or would that be too Australian for the production team?

It's an Ice Warrior! Newly defrosted, even.

Poor Doctor. It isn't really Las Vegas. That's not on TV for another hour.

"Search them. Yes, I know that's a woman. Search them."

"I would like a receipt, please!"

Electrical current weapons in a submarine with water splashing all around the floors. What could possibly go wrong?

"Oh look, you've got me telling you all about them and I said there wasn't time!"

"Am I speaking Russian? How am I speaking Russian?"

"A little green man from Mars?" "Correction: A big green man from Mars."

"A soldier knows another soldier. He'd smell it on you a mile off." "And he wouldn't smell it on you?"

"History is in flux. It can be changed." ... That's another reminder that some things have changed dramatically since the classic series.

"You speak excellent Russian, my dear, but sometimes I don't understand a word you're saying."

It's interesting that it takes us quite a long time to get more than a fingernail shot of how an Ice Warrior looks outside his armour.

And now for an ad break. "Experience the taste of Mars!" All right, whose bright idea was it to schedule an ad for Mars Bars in the middle of an Ice Warrior episode? At least we aren't getting the cigarette ads we were getting in the Doctor Who ad breaks late last year.

"Which of us shall blink first?" ... Your eyes look a bit as if they've got some sort of inner eyelids. That's cheating.

"My people live, and they have come for me!"

... Saved by singing something by Duran Duran. That's a new one...

All and all this was a good reintroduction of the Ice Warriors, and with any luck the saucer at the end (complete with, it seems likely, a good saucerful of Ice Warriors) means this won't be the last we've seen of them. The Ice Warriors' armour redesign is subtle and more a tidying-up than a radical facelift; what is radical is that we finally get confirmation that the Ice Warriors are separate to their armour, complete with an explanation why we haven't seen one out of his (or her - interestingly enough we don't seem to have ever got confirmation of what gender this Ice Warrior was, and said Ice Warrior's daughter was also an Ice Warrior) armour previously.

But I do suspect a lot of long-suffering parents are going to be asked things like "Daddy, was there really a Cold War going on with the Russians back when you were young?"

[User Picture]From: aeb
2013-04-25 08:28 pm (UTC)
{LAUGH} Well, at least that last question has a quick and easy answer. {SMILE}

Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
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[User Picture]From: southerndave
2013-04-26 02:22 am (UTC)
There's a whole lot of early to mid 1980s popular music that needs knowledge of the Cold War to experience their full effect, from the extreme fatalism in "1999" to references to the Doomsday Clock (at least two songs I have on CD even have "minutes to midnight" in their titles).
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[User Picture]From: aeb
2013-04-26 02:50 am (UTC)
Well, the Cold War was pretty big and threatening in the 1980's. Even as a teenager who often ignored the news, I knew that much. I'm not too surprised it made it into the music. I think I'd be slightly more surprised if it hadn't, to tell the truth. {SMILE}

Anne Elizabeth Baldwin

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[User Picture]From: southerndave
2013-04-30 07:18 am (UTC)
I was more thinking along the lines of: how would someone like $nephew, who didn't show up until five years after the USSR collapsed, make sense of songs like "Three Minutes to Midnight" or lyrics containing lines such as "everybody's got a bomb, we could all die any day." There's a whole cultural background there he's missing out on... which makes me start thinking on how much I'm missing out on when I'm listening to 1960s music.
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[User Picture]From: aeb
2013-04-30 09:03 am (UTC)
I see your point on both counts. I'm sure I miss references like that in 1960's and earlier music. Even some 1970's music... I was alive for the moon landings and the end of the Vietnamese War but I was too small to pay attention to current events. Yes, I know about those particular events, but I'm sure there were other things I missed. {wink, Smile}

Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
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[User Picture]From: d_h
2013-04-25 08:57 pm (UTC)
As a parent I got "That episode was a bit flat, wasn't it?" I was actually the first filmed one and I think that showed in the characterization of Clara and the relationship with the Doctor.
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[User Picture]From: southerndave
2013-04-26 02:13 am (UTC)
Your progeny can be accused of being many things, but 'typical' isn't one of them.

I didn't find it 'flat', but I did find it respectful of the original Ice Warrior story from Troughton's 'base under siege' season, which might translate into 'flat' in Teenager English.
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[User Picture]From: botrytis
2013-04-25 09:35 pm (UTC)
"At least we aren't getting the cigarette ads we were getting in the Doctor Who ad breaks late last year."

Wait, what? How? I didn't think that was legal on NZ TV.
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[User Picture]From: southerndave
2013-04-26 02:10 am (UTC)
How? Very sneakily, disguised as advertising for this web site. They were also buying half-page (possibly also full-page, although I don't recall them) advertisements in the Dunedin paper (but, funnily enough, not in the Invercargill paper, at least not that I recall).
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